So who wants to see Taufik not playing?

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  1. phaarix

    phaarix Regular Member

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    I'm not saying the linejudge was wrong either. I'm not getting at anyone here. My point has nothing to do with whether it was in or not. It's what Taufik thinks that justifies his reactions. As far as the "rude gestures" go, that's just human nature. He's obviously under a lot of pressure playing top level tournaments like this, and anyone can lose their cool if they feel they're being treated unfairly.

    Once again, I'm not getting at anyone, I'm not saying it was in or out. I'm merely saying that Taufik is just human, and to stop over-dramatising such minor things as a "V signal". He made his decision based on what he thought was right. Get over it >_>.

    *Sigh* Tell me, has Taufik walked off in EVERY match he's played? As for whacking the line judge with his racquet... well what do you think? Of course I wouldn't defend him in that case! But is that what happened? Is that even CLOSE to what happened? It's not even worthy of comparison.

    You're completely misinterpreting what I'm saying. I'm not blindly defending what he did. When I say it's his decision, and that's okay, I'm saying that because it's not something dead serious like some people are making it out to be. It's nothing like whacking a line judge with your racquet. It's just not that serious.
     
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    I added these comments later in the same posting.

    Everyone's playing for himself, sure, but if everyone walks off if he doesn't like a decision, what a farce it will all become.

    If it is his decision to whack the linejudge with his racquet, will you then be for or against him? Or will you continue with the "it's his decision" line of reasoning?
     
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    Thanks for the pics Cheung. Calls happen. Sometimes for you, sometimes against you. Regardless, as a professional, you have an obligation to the crowd that paid money to watch you play.

    Retiring abruptly like TH did (for something so small) was extremely unprofessional. I'm disappointed. :(
     
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    My 2 cents:
    Taufik plays for himself, NOT TO ENTERTAIN the spectators. If he thinks that there is no point in continuing, its his decision. To demand him: "play for me bitch" is what is immature, not Taufik. Taufik is not your family doctor or your neighborhood policeman, he has no responsibility of playing to your satisfaction.

    As to who is really the top dawg, the big daddy, the head honcho ... one more month and everybody can shut the hell up.
     
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    I agree with hcyong..If every player can just leave the competition when they are not happy...Then what will happened???Anyway,player should not let his emotion affect his action..However..no matter who is fault in this incident...I still think that he should continue with his match...If he continue playing...he is really a professional and mature player..
     
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    Keep your day job. :rolleyes:
     
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    can anybody state any IBF rule that Taufik broke?




    ... that's what I thought
     
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    What if he decides to walk off on every match, thinking he is correct in walking off? What if every player decides that? Why does he think he is correct? Why must he assume that everyone else who disagrees is wrong?
     
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    *looks at your profile*
    9.16 posts per day:rolleyes:
     
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    But they CAN leave whenever they want. They CAN default the match to the opposition. Not everyone is the same though. Taufik personally likes to only play in a fair environment, and if he thinks it is unfair, whether it be true or not, he has the right to stop playing.

    If YOU would rather him play all his matches through to completion, despite how he feels (he is a person, not just a mindless professional... robot), then that's your problem.

    Anyway, I've let you all know my opinion. I'm not interested in arguing with you all. You can think what you want, and I can think what I want. Personally, I think everyone should just cool down a bit and let it pass. Things like this happen.
     
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    Actually, on retrospect, it is not his walking off that got me riled up. It is what he gestured to the linejudge.
     
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    Yeah, it wasn't the nicest thing to do, but no one's perfect. Anyway, off to bed with me. Hope this is all settled soon :).
     
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    i have missed the drama :(....

    hmmm i was dissappointed with what taufik did ...

    wc (lindan vs taufik) is getting hotter for sure :)
     
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    That's the perfect excuse. It can be used to explain away all the bad things that have been done in history. Hitler killed some people, but hey, no one's perfect.
     
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    Gosh didn't know it happened until just now.

    I love playing and watching racquet sports. I remember in a Grand Slam quarter final (it should be wimbledon), because of some silly mistake, Venus William's opponant was given one more point in a tie-break. Eventually Venus lost the match.

    In her interview Venus was asked how she felt when she knew that the score went wrong. She said one point cannot affect the whole match, and she thought her opponant deserved the win and she was the better player.

    In Tennis and Badminton, there are often misjudgements, good line calls, bad line calls and (thus) controversial line calls. Players (regardsless of whether it's badminton, tennis or table tennis) with bad temper would throw their racquets, shout at the umpire and/or the line judge. Of course it's not a good show of sportmanship or manner, but personally I think it's okay to vent your anger to a certain extend, so that you can continue to play. What's more is that spectators sometimes like seeing players with character.

    Not to compare Badminton to Tennis, but I saw John Mcenroe, Mark Philippoussis, Marat Safin screaming like mad men on the court because of (what they thought were) bad line calls, but NONE of them left the court just like that. They all knew that they are professional players, and they understood that sports is a form of entertainment, and they were there to give a good match and to entertain people who have bought tickets to see them (according to a lot of players like Lindsay Deventport, Amilie Mauresmo, Martina Navratilova, and even John Mcenroe). Without people watching them, there would be no matches, there would be nothing on which professional players can live.

    Yes of course the players are playing for themselves. But this is exactly why they need to continue despite the calls against them. This is how they make themselves professional. They are playing for their professionalism. God knows how many bad calls there can be in a match, it might not be as fair as one wants to be. But isn't it the reason why you want to win the match even more?

    I have never seen a tennis player forfeiting the match because of a bad line call; I have not come across a respectable football team leaving the field early because of an unfair red card (I have seen crazy fans killing the judge cos of so though); and none of the table tennis player I know gives up the game cos of a call based on a misjudgement. I don't see why a badminton player has the previledge to leave the court just because of a line call (which may or may not be bad) against him/her.

    Leaving the match like this is not only UNprofessinoal, but also immature, and not respecting the audience, as well as the players themselves.
     
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    unless Taufik got permission from the umpire, he should not have left the court (16.5.2 under Laws of badminton)
     
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    well put .... bit long but well put!
     
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    My bad, I forgot the #1 rule of posting on a message board:

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    You signed up with this account an hour ago...why don't you post with your real handle?
     
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    now now, keep it clean, this is not the place for personal stuff, we're here to discuss the tournament ... :p
     
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