Slice Shot

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  1. unregistered

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    ooo

    i can only do teh forehand slcie and reverse forehand slice.. can anyone explain to me how the backhand slice is done?
     
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    Try to read the previous posts my dear....
     
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    I think you are confusing DROPS with NET shots.
     
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    how do you do a backhand slice? do you slice it downwards or slice it towards the backhand side away from your body?
     
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    1\ If you define a slice as any hit that brushes the bird at an angle, then one might theoretically brush it either sideways (on its right or left side), underneath, on top (as in a top spin move in ping pong or tennis), or at any other angle in between.

    2\ Take into account how your wrist is configured and you'll find that (at least in my experience):

    - High forehand slices are most easily achieved by brushing sideways (right side easier than left) and/or underneath

    - High backhand slices are most easily achieved by brushing sideways (left side). This should answer your question.

    - Round the head (or close to round the head) slices are most easily achieved by brushing underneath or on top

    - Low forehand slices are most easily achieved by brushing underneath

    - Low backhand slices are too difficult for me :p

    3\ Throw in tactics and some of the theoretical slices left in 2 might be deemed by some too inferior (low success rate, too long to reach the net, etc.) to be of any use.

    Cheers,

    Mike
     
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    The best way I can think of describing the slice is with geometry:

    Generally, shots are hit with the plane of the racquet face perpendicular to the racquet's direction of travel. For a slice, the racquet face is turned off of the 90-degree angle. The angle the racquet is turned, along with the swing direction, determine where the shuttle will go, and the harder the swing, the more added spin you impart to the shuttle.

    I've seen guys who can slice the shuttle so hard on a forehand overhead that the shuttle takes an upward loop before dropping.
     
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    Here's a resume from other posts and what I believe should be the right technique (here I assume a righthanded):

    1) Forehand slice

    grip: turning your grip from a normal grip to a bit more clockwise

    hit the bird on the outside

    NO SHOULDER ROTATION

    a) on right corner

    -left shoulder points straight in front -> slice cross-court

    b) on left corner

    -left shoulder points cross-court -> slice straight in front of you

    2) Reverse forehand slice

    grip: turning your grip from a normal grip to a bit anti clockwise

    hit the bird on the inside

    a) on right corner

    -left shoulder points cross-court -> slice straight in front of you

    b) on left corner

    -left shoulder points straight in front of you -> slice cross-court
     
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    JRMTL brings up a good point, although not explicitly. The point is that it can be worth playing a straight shot with slice. In order to be more deceptive, angle your body crosscourt and slice for a straight shot.

    I'm not convinced about the "NO SHOULDER ROTATION" part, though. Why not? Isn't shoulder rotation going to make your shot look more like a smash?
     
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    I think you guys forgot the "Jumping slice shot". I do this to make others think i'm doing a really powerful jump smash, making them shrivil and move back in a defence, but then i slice it. ;)
     
  10. JRMTL

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    Exactly. When you are in your left corner and your shoulders are pointing crosscourt, the slice down the straight line is often a killer. Then, the next time, you hit a plain halfsmash crosscourt and your have a couple of shots interesting to exploit.

    **EDIT**

    And, pointing your shoulder crosscourt will not only be deceptive, it will help to have a better slice. I bet it helps to hit the bird outside with the appropriate grip (more clockwise than normal).

    **END EDIT**

    For the "NO SHOULDER ROTATION", it will give you a better feeling how to slice. I didn't analyze yet the biomechanics of that shot, so I can't explain why this helps. But, personally and from the guys and girls I coached, it works.

    Obviously, you will rotate your shoulders, but you should rotate them as late as possible, like if you were holding.

    JR
     
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    i'm guessing this isn't the JP who pairs up with LP?
     
  12. JRMTL

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    newbie coaching?
    huh?
    must have very high standards to be coaching yet call yourself a newbie:) :D
     
  14. JRMTL

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    Haha!

    Newbie on the site here... lmao

    and coaching in Montreal... but not as a newbie!
    :D
     
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    pls tell me how to execute a very fast drop
     

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