thought this is illegal u have to have the shuttle in unobstructed view to the receiver from when u hit it (ie cant stand behind your mixed lady partner and serve so that it goes behind her (from the receivers POV)
How about this? I saw a girl turn her back to the net to serve. The shuttle is in clear view --- she holds it out with her left hand, but the racquet is not, until a split second before the shuttle is struck. I suppose if it is legal people should/would not be doing it. How on earth is the server going to return a net shot reply to the serve?
The receiver must be able to see the shuttle clearly (stated in the rule of badminton) However, there no nothing mentioned on the racquet. Therefore, Ms Munt's serve was tough for the receiver. Read the rules and find a loophole, it will be to your advantages. Quite a few years ago, the Chinese was serving back hand double serve. Instead of hitting the cork of the shuttle, they were hitting the feather instead. This made the flight path of the shuttle very "unstable" and the receivers had a hard to time to jump the serve. Well, the rule of badminton was changed - now you cannot hit the feather on serve. The Chinese found the loophole and enjoyed the advantage for a bit. As your teacher will say, it pays to read.
Frank firstly point out the rule on seeing the shuttle clearly! Secondly , what you are refering to is the S serve or sometimes crocodile, (see Han's article http://www.badmintoncentral.com/badminton-central/content/view/20/26/) the rules actually state your first contact has to be with the base (cork)) 9.1.4.
The only rule I know of about being able to see the shuttle relates to the service 9.7 In doubles, the partners may take up any positions which do not unsight the opposing server or receiver.
Sorry, I should have quoted the rule. As Neil Nicholls points out Rule 9.7 is the one that I am referring to. The receiver should be able to see the shuttle. This rule is "more important" in doubles as the partner can block the view on the shuttle completely. Yes, currently Rule 9.1.4 states the base of the cork mus be the first contact point in the serve. However, back in the 1970s (if I recalled correctly), there was no mention about the base of the cork to be the first point of contact. That was how the Chinese explored the loophole.
nothing says that. only that server's partner cannot block the receiver's view. It appears to be perfectly legal for the server to block the receiver's view. It's another matter again if there is a service judge, because if the server unsights the service judge then a let probably has to be called.
I remember hearing in a dvd about a new law (From 04 i think) that its okay for your foot to go under the net now. I believe it was gade vs LD AE 04 final where i heard it. as for lunging at teh serve, you can always do it after they hit the bird ;P does anyone know when the start of the serve is? I believe it is when the forward motion begins, not at the contact point.
How would a server block the "sight" of the shuttle from the receiver? The server can use the hand (the one holding onto the shuttle) to cover the entire shuttle. However, as soon as the shuttle leaves the server's hand, the shuttle will be spotted. I do not think any server will turn around (i.e. facing the baseline) and serve in an attempt to block the receiver from view the shuttle. If the receiver believes the shuttle is blocked, he/she can choose to play a let (even without a service judge present). I have seen this in a competition before. Then the tournament organizer has to made a call on the blocking the sight of the shuttle.
The start of the service Rule 9.4 Once the players have taken their positions, the first forward movement of the server’s racket head shall be the start of the service. In case anyone is wondering: Rule 9.5 Once started (Law 9.4), the service is delivered when the shuttle is hit by the server’s racket or, in attempting to serve, the server misses the shuttle. I have included the link from IBF on the Law of Badminton. Law of Badminton For the "invasion" of the opponent's court, read Rule 13.4
I can't think of much else, but I've even heard people say that covering the shuttle with the hand is illegal.
May be this can be a possible loophole that we can explore. Anyone got any ideas that a server can take advantage of this and confuse the receiver?
IMO, the server's hand covering the shuttle is not an effective method. Something more drastic is needed to confuse the receiver's attention. I think we should explore this and see whether there is a loophole that a server can take an advantage here.
Does that mean a helmet is needed? If the opponent jumps my serve, sometimes I will need my partner to do a flat drive right back to the service receiver to catch him/her off guard.
Nope helmet is needed, at least not now. Actually, I got lucky (*keeps fingers crossed and knocks on wood)*, with the help of SCChang, I really improved my serve just over the weekend. SC said I stood too far back and it was making me inconsistent with my serve, as well as making it hard to get to return drop shots. SC suggested I stand right up at the service line and for some reason, my serves are getting over low and no helmet is now required.
Good for you. Just watch out some guys will time your serve and jump on it so racquet up and drive right back to them.
