Does the new scoring system bring the game to a higher level?

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  1. taneepak

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    Do you think the new scoring system will bring the game to a higher level? ;)
     
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    I wouldnt say to a higher level but to a different standard.:rolleyes:
     
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    Then to an equal or lower level? Or to something else, if there is such a thing? :confused:
     
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    It sure is faster:rolleyes:

    Points to be earned in every rally, which makes it a bit more exciting in my opinion:p:D

    Not a higher standard... but surely a different one:cool::cool:
     
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    Surely it is just a trial system? Or was that a slip?

    The answer is a resounding NO, by the way.
     
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    Negative, Ghost Rider.
     
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    This new scoring system and all the rest (plastic shuttles, new website etc :rolleyes: ) is the perfect example of the incapacity of IBF of doing its job, promoting and developping badminton.

    IBF is really giving a very very poor image to the sports world and this is very bad for our favourite sport! :(

    I would really love to have the power to kick out the current team and replace them by competent persons... :rolleyes:
     
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    By the way, why create yet another thread about the new scoring system, when there already several of them on this precise topic?? :confused:
     
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    Definitively not.. shortening the games and making it "easier" to win points doesn't raise the level of the game.. Just makes it slightly less demanding, and intruduces some elemtens of luck if players are not to wide apart in skills... It also means lower level of fitnessä-level required..

    So no.. 21x3 rally scoring isn't taking badminton to a higher level (just as 5x7 didn't) and just as softball rules doesnt take baseball to a higher level :p

    I don't beleive players like Gade, Bao, Lin Dan etc will be "more focused" just becuase a game is scortened.. I think they are 100% focused today when meeting an opponent that isn't clearly weaker than them.. I think they work hard of the mental aspects (Lin Dan has mentioned many times that he thinks is edge is the mental toughness), so to even think that Linf Dan and Taufik are not 100% focused when meeting in the Surdiman Cup, or WC is just plain silly imop.. And that they would take it more "seriously" and focus more if the games are made shorter, with more breaks, i do not think..

    I think it is also a interesting aspect of badminton to keep focus and precision, while breathing extremely heavy in the last decider, that is lost if the matches are too short..
     
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    agreed.. they try to cover up their failure in marketing strategy by pointing out the system of the game that's make the game less popular.. :rolleyes:
     
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    Agree with this. The main element for being more or less focussed is motivation.
    When you are playing in the Olympics or the World Champs and you really want to win very hard, you will be as focussed as ever, whatever the scoring system!

    Obviously if Taufik plays a training match (or even a competitive one ;) ) against you or me for example, he will not bother to be focussed, whatever the scoring system!

    Yes, I think this is a very important part of badminton which would be killed.
    Badminton reduced to all-attack flash-matches... what a bore it would be! :(
     
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    players will now focus on more explosive movements and less stamina. where or not shorter but faster games is more exciting is up for debate.
    my opinion is that speedier games are more exciting but when two players are dead tired after an hour and a half of an intense match takes the cake for excitement.
     
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    the duration is too short to and is not appropriate for a game that is supposed to be a professional sport......

    after watching 21x3 in serveral matches I am not against rallypoint itself.... but I am against the 21x3 format because its too short, not professional and discourages comebacks.... its less fair and isn't going to make the sport more competitive, only less in my opinion.

    the only way a rallypoint system could work is playing games with less points 5-7 and having best of sets for games like tennis scoring and allowing enough sets to make the duration the same as before.....


    But I honestly don't care....to me this is a stupid issue to begin with , I think the IBF are morons and should all be fired. They to make changes in all the wrong areas and not focusing on the real issues.
     
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    Definitely, it sparks high energy, high tension, and it simplify the system. In a sense, its more fair because every point counts, no effort is wasted. Whoever gets 21 points first win the game....that simple.

    TV broadcasting companies love it, they can better estimate the duration of each game, they can make room for commercials, and they do not have to worry a live telecast will screw up the schedules.
     
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    definately. not to a higher level... Just different types of game play!
    there will be less focus on stamina and more on speed & power.
    They will also be less point getting strategy, where you try to tired out your opponent..

    Some0ne plzzz replace those M0r0n in IBF!!!:mad:
     
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    I would like to give some insights based on my conversation with the professional players. Most of them disagree that the new format change may not bring the game to a higher level since in all the matches, they give their 100% if not 110% to that match. Alot agree that, they have to change their strategies when approach the game in the new format since every points counts. Court awareness have to be much better and they cannot make silly mistakes. No time to relax as well in the new format mentally and physically.

    In terms of spectators, we may think that the level is higher but actually not, it is just that the game is played in a much faster phase.
     
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    i agree most of what were said here, the games will be faster paced. Higher level is a subjective intepretation as some like watching power games while some like to watch more stroke skills, deception and/or tactic style.
     
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    It will take diversity out of then game as there will be just one way to win : speed and power!
    I think diversity is one of the very important aspects of badminton, which means that players with different physical qualities and different styles can take it to the top.

    The new scoring format will advantage tall and muscular players with power play style, which means that european players might get better results and south-east asian players will probably get worse results ...
     
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    one of the beautiful things about badminton is that you see a wide variety of statures of players. you see small muscular (Peter Rasmussen), small slight (Taufik), tall thin (Bao Chunlai) tall muscular WCH. Also you see everything in between. Many body types can be good at badminton which makes the sport open to more people which increases competition. However to market badminton IBF may be trying to make the sport more appealing to western market with tall strong players being at the top. I wouldn't even mind the change, just so long as they bring the old scoring system back once and if thier plan works to mainstream and televise badminton.
     

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