Went to get my Cab30MS SP for its first restring since purchase. Now I got it originally strung up for 23lbs in Singapore. But today my local respected badminton pro shop in NZ said that 23lbs was a risk and that I had to sign a disclaimer in case they break my racquet...furthermore they said Carbonex is weaker than Armourtec and Nano. Fair enough I guess but is Carbonex, esp the newer models really that weaker??? Am I risking my CAB at 23lbs? A search on the forums suggests not...but back to the main issue...is Carbonex weaker than other Yonex racquets?
No worries man, Carbonex to me is more durable compared to musclepower, AT or nano series. I also had a Cab30ms strung with 24Lbs, survived a few clashes n some mishits on frames n hitting the floor a few times due to retrieving....still as good as new. In fact, i do tink dat Carbonex with its oval head feels abit more powerful but less sweetspot den the iso head...just how i feel.
i say find yourself another shop for your badminton supply. this guy is pretty clueless. carbonexes is probably the strongest of all yonex series. the cab23 especailly. i have a friend who's cab23 looks like the face of the moon and it si still holding very well. the latest yonex series are much weaker in comparison.
Agree, the Cab line is the strongest of all the Yonex series. MP99/100 are decent too. The ATs and NSs are just...weaksauce...in comparison.
Is that the K&W pro shop where you're getting it strung? They just want to cover their arses for anything above Yonex's less than stellar tension ratings. I had my NS8000 strung there without worry... pity I broke it by not cutting my strings (but that's another story) And yeah, I'd have to say the Cabs are definitely strong enough. They don't make racquets like they used to...
I kind of believe that Carbonex series are the strongest among Yonex product line. In my opinion, oval head rackets have stronger construction than iso frame rackets. Once again, it's just my opinion and I don't have scientific data to back me up.
I think the shop is protecting his own rights cause Yonex won't accept return of racquets strung over recommended tension. Back to the subject, is cab weaker than other series? Answer is no ! Oval is a good structure for strength. Probabaly weaker than AT and NS series due to material difference. However, I think CAB30ms is not a typical cabonex. Like its name, it's cabonex+muscle power. Therefore its strenth is (cabonex+MP)/2. The overall ranking of strenth,IMO, is AT>= NANO> cabonex>Cabonex MP>MP
IMHO, Cob is the strongest of all series. If ISO is stronger than Oval, then the the natural selection will have ISO chicken eggs. Only reason some other racquet might be stronger is because they have Ti mesh as additional support on the frame to give it extra strength. Another story, there was a Taiwanese company 20 yrs. ago call ROX. They made full ISO graphite racquet back then. However, since there is no Ti mesh support, they break very easily. Anyone know what happen to ROX? They went out of business. Given the same meterial, ISO is actually weaker than Oval.
I think 23lb is safe for your CAB30 but having said that my AT500 is strung at 25lbs; so in that sense I think the AT is probably "stronger" in that it can take higher tension. Nick
LOL! You cannot base it on that. I highly doubt the AT500 is stronger than a Cab30. I've strung a Cab30 as well as a Ti10 at 29/31lbs. with no problems. Based on your assumption, then they would be stronger rackets. Anyway, it's all relative. Based on my experience, the Cab line of rackets are definitely more durable and better built than the ATs, NSs, and MPs. The Cab is a lot better than the ATs and NSs, and marginally to significantly better than the MPs.
Yep, the reason why Yonex now uses an isometric head shape is because it has a larger hitting surface which helps increase the sweetspot. Also supposed to help minimize mishits. That and it can utilize the single pass grommet technology which is a waste to me. Other than that one "factual" benefit and that single pass "perceived" benefit, I don't see any advantage to an iso head. I prefer the oval head. Long live the Cab!
This is a flawed statement. My cab20 original (3 of them more than 4 years old and bought 2nd hand) are strung at tensions as high as the AT500. All three are in regular weekly/monthly use except when being restrung. I do concede that your AT500 is not yet 4 years old and so would not have the same track record as my racquets. A more important point is the skill of the stringer at higher tensions.
Cab series might be one of the most durable (if not the most) series in yonex production line. Also, 23lb is pretty safe for any higher end model from any reputable manufacture, if u use it properly (i.e. not a crazy clash), and string it properly.
Thanks guys for confirming that high end CAB models are strong, if not even stronger racquets than the ISOs. I was thinking abt it and thought the shape is like an egg, which we all know is a strong basic shape to have. I have had a few minor clashes without any scratches even and even brought an old CAB 10 SP not too long ago
By stronger I was only referring to how much the manufacturer's recommendation for the string tension, and the AT is rated higher than the CAB. The CAB 30 is recommended by the manufacturer to take 23lbs whereas the AT500 is recommended by the manufacturer to take 25lbs. I am sure the CAB30 is very strong in that you can string it up to 29lbs and have no problems at all
unfortunately, the manufacturer's recommendation do not neccessarily correlate with the strength of a racket. AT/NS rackets have higher recommended tension than cabs but from experience, they are far weaker.
I don't want to split hairs over the definition of stronger or weaker. I think we are talking about different things here..more likely on the durability of the racquet rather that the ability of the racquet to take higher tension which was my point initially.I'm sure your experience is valid when you say that cabs are stronger (durable?) I have a question though ,if you string your new racquet beyond the manufacturer's recommendation and the racquet breaks ,does that mean you void the warranty ? Question, what do you go by when you string your racquet, how much tension would you put on it if not based on manufacturers recommendation ? I'm sure everyone has the preference on string tension. If you buy a new racquet that's on the market, do you simply string it up to 30lbs based on your liking and thinking or because you like that tension ? I doubt so. Generally I don't think any badminton racquet is that durable , I have broken all types of racquets in my lifetime even CAB racquets for that matter.
You should stick to the topic. Quick answers: Yes, recommended tension is there for its own reasons. If you don't follow it, the warranty is voided. Any tension that you are comfortable with will do So far, I have not yet broken any CABs yet. ISO head rackets? some.
