Kickstarter - The Moller Test (hardware sensor)

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  1. demolidor

    demolidor Regular Member

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    Someone shared this link and might be of interest to some:
    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/758314924/the-moller-test

    "What is the Moller test?

    The Moller test will..

    • .. tell you how fast you are
    • .. give you a way to improve your game
    • .. let you compare yourself with the World elite
    With the Moller test you can train and improve the way you move while playing badminton. By combining special sensors with software, the test can measure the time it takes for you to complete a series and give you an accurate measurement on how quick you move on the court.
    The idea is to give you a result that is highly relevant to your sport - not a standard running test where the result you get is more difficult to use.
    Train better and measure your progress - these are the fundamentals of the Moller test. A new and unique way to improve your game."


    The concept of the Moller test is to simulate a badminton duel. You will see where the shuttle comes on the display and then you have to hit the corresponding sensor as fast possible. After you have hit the sensor, the next shuttle will appear on the screen. All shuttles are randomized so you will never know where to go next - instead, you have to react to what you see on the screen.

    Apparently it was first presented at or around the Peter Gade v Lin Dan farewell match back in December 2012 and in the promo vid Boe and Fischer make appearances

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  2. ein_roboter

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    Looks fascinating and it's always welcoming to see that badminton teams are using the latest technology and software to improve the game. For a kickstarter project, I don't really see what I personally would gain of it though, other than a phone app. The video in the link is a recommended watch!

    At my club we have an exercise that has the same principal in gaining more explosive power and speed; we place a row of shuttles on the back court, front court and left/right side. There person who has to do the exercise, listens to the teller, who shouts a command ('front', 'back', 'left', 'right'). After the command, the runner has to hit the shuttle off the court and immediately moves to the base. When the runner is at his/her base, the teller shouts the second command etc. untill no shuttles are left on court. Only drawback is that you can't play a higher shuttle above your head, but there are plenty of variations on this simple and straightforward exercise (the runners can make a shadow jump as if they are playing a shuttle above their head before returning to base).

    As a technology junky, this Moller test looks quite intricate and the possibilities are endless. I would however loved to see more sensors to mimic a badminton game even closely. Why not develop something in combination with 'kinect' software? That a computer with a motion sensor 'sees' the player and that a screen shows the player what kind of exercise he/she has to do :)
     
  3. kwun

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    interesting.

    badminton, like other speed oriented sport is in dire need of some type of benchmark for speed. every runner know their mile, 5k, 10k, 1/2 marathon times. is there an equivalent for badminton? nothing at the moment. some coaches might have their own metrics for the own students, but there is nothing that is universally agreed upon.

    this seem to be a good step towards that goal. however, there is a dilemma to this. as badminton is incredibly complex, much more complicated than just running distance alone, there need to be an agreed upon metric. a certain pattern.

    the dilemma comes when a fixed pattern firstly isn't going to be realistic. and secondly when there is a known pattern then it is easy for players to take short cut.

    a random pattern is possible and generated via computer/app. but a random pattern isn't going to be a good benchmark due to its nature.
     
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    It's sad that this only have 13 backers and 1% of target, considering that world class players like Mathias Boe is endorsing it.
     
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    since most people hate Boe, maybe that's the problem.
     
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    Most people hate Boe? :confused:
     
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    His behaviour is terrible.
     
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    Actually, Mathias Boe is quite likeable off-court.
    He mingles easily, chats without airs and has a good sense of humour.

    On court, he is anything but likeable.
     
  9. Charlie-SWUK

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    Well.. That's not something I expected haha
     
  10. amleto

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    It's probably because to get anything tangible, (except for mini game app - oh joy!), you have to spend of $6500.

    All of the options are just terrible value. The mini games looks ****e.
     
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    That's not true. You can get the autographed Yonex shirt for about $100...or two for about $150.

    I think it's because people think it's an unnecessary product. I mean if it cost <$2000 then it might be useful but as of now it's too expensive for what it actually is. It's pretty much replaceable by some cones and a person with stopwatch.
     
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    Ok, missed that. Still, it doesn't help to pay $100 and get nothing back to do with the project.
     
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    yeah. compound that most badminton players are more frugal than other sports. i am not surprised at all that no one is interested in something so simple for such amount of money.
     

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