No I agree there are no hard evidence (probably will never be) that high level man amateur can beat high ranking world level woman player, either in single or double. what's the incentive for the pro anyway what I tried to present, is that in many occasion (subject to debate), that high level genuine amateur male player can beat high ranking pro women, and the skill level of the man is demonstrated and cross checked by playing against either ex world level man or woman or whatever known level. I am not aware of any other source of verifying these guys level....and also what level an genuine amateur who start at 25 can achieve, with some natural talent and a die hard spirit (from what I heard the chef is a regular in the chinese badminton forum)
I have copied the above post from another thread. It is quite interesting. There seems to be something around the ages of 10-11 that affect the development of children and their skills. I don't know if it is the sheer number of hours they are exposed to as a child. People who start training in badminton before the age of 10-11 seem to have more fluidity and 'natural feeling' in their strokes. I noticed a similar phenomena in languages from Chinese people I met in University. If that person had moved to UK around 10-11years old or before, then their spoken English was pretty natural and near native. Above that age, you would still be able to know they were second language learners. So, for those forummers who have relatives/friends with children under the age of ten, think about getting them down to the badminton courts for regular training!! Earlier might be better
How would you compare with others at the same age group? Some may start earlier and some may start later than you.
probably around that age is when they're starting to be able to focus better for skills development, develop interests/passions, understand instructions, understand their own bodies physical aspect, etc
True but it seems to me that those who start younger have smoother strokes. Your description also applies to teenagers.
of course, the younger they start the better but from just looking at my 10 and 12 yr old kids, probably around 10 is when they're more self motivated to learn a complicated skill like this
Complicate? Really? Try give two i phone to your kids see if they can learn to operating them without you as a father teaching them.
haha. Visor is underestimating his kids ability on complicated motor skills. Hand them an XBoxOne Visor. Here's something else interesting - I have been told by an experienced coach that molding the competitive attitude of a child is far easier before they are 10years old. After 10 years old, they start developing into likes and dislikes.
lol... you should know that just last week, the older child changed the passcode on the younger's ipad ... and can't remember what the new code is! and now, i'm stuck with the possibility of having to wipe it and reboot it from a backup...
yes, by around this age, they start to develop a sense of self ... and you can't force them to do anything they don't really like without much persuasion
My principle would b to enforce them to do things that we as parents think are beneficial to them in the long term. As they start to bcome teens at 12, thats when we should let go of the reins slowly n let them decide n choose what they want to do that makes them happy. Would call it enforced guidance...
Nope, am not coveting his status or fame. Wish I could start young so I would know what is my potential as a leisure, casual player... lol
agreed. probably human nature, in general people dont like being told, right or wrong. would be interesting to know that if one starts being professionally coached from 20, say after 10 years, will he achieve a similar standard as someone else who starts at 10? i doubt there will be such example though.
I think it is not only starting at this or that age, it is more at what age a child start formal training. Playing without drills on footwork and specific strokes is not helping I beleive.
It would certainly be fascinating to see if a twenty year old can attain the standard of somebody who starts routines and skills training before 10 years old (and that the twenty year old has put in the same number of hours). Agree with renbo. I think they can become very good but not quite the same fluidity and "naturalness" of the adult that had formal training as a child. I think it's the same with languages - the older you are to start a second language, the less likely you will achieve native speech - fluent, yes but not native.