Short doubles serve is horrible. HELP!!!

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  1. JustinG

    JustinG Regular Member

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    I've been trying to work on my doubles short serve for so long but I can't seem to get it right! Should I push the bird, slice it, or tap it off the racket? Usually when I serve, I hit it upwards and it's too high and then it just gets killed...

    Any good videos that show a solid short serve would be great!
     
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    LOW. It's a LOW serve! Height over the net is far more important than where it might land. From experience of taking a drive to the face from a county player, trust me the height matters more.

    I go for a brush/slow push action but definitely emphasis on hitting it flat. Cai yun did a good video on YouTube.
     
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    I recommend you push the shuttle. It will give you a better feel for where the shuttle is going to go, which should help you get the serve you want. Shuttle goes upwards? Push forwards not upwards. Shuttle is going short? Push forwards more to help it reach the service line.

    This has worked best for me.

    Some tips from me:
    - the service is a flat shot, so try to push flat rather than upwards.
    - pay very close attention to where your strings are facing BEFORE you serve: if they are pointing upwards, then your pushed service will travel upwards. Try to make sure they are flat before you serve, or even pointing slightly downwards (don't worry about hitting too low - you should be able to help push the shuttle OVER the net).

    Good luck!

    p.s. you need to pick a technique and then practice it many many times. I would expect it to be several months before you develop a good serve.
     
  5. Gollum

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    Forget about slicing the serve for now (and maybe ever!). Just use a simple push action as Matt described.
     
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    If your shuttle is going too high, you need to straighten the racket face more so it is almost parallel to the net, as long as you hold the shuttle with two fingers (thumb and index fingers) and slightly upwards, it will go just over the net and tight. Remember that the twisting of the racket face governs height in a low serve, tinker about with it and you will get there. Good luck!

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    Three things you need to do for a consistent low serve (my opinion only)

    1 practice
    2 practice
    3 practice
     
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    ^ I think I needed about 60 hrs of practice before it became excellent.

    A few more tips, use higher tensions above 25 lbs with good feeling rough strings. Don't use the sweetspot for contact, use closer to the frame around 2 o'clock instead. You will notice better control.
     
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    Only 60 hrs? You are good. When games is tight, and opponent attacking/pressuring low serve well.... I still choke.... many many international players also can't hold their nerves at critical moment...
     
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    The trick is to concentrate on the top of the net and ignore the person. But that's pretty difficult!
     
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    I didn't count the hours but it was a lot! And I did a lot of experiments on slight adjustments and their effect on the flight.

    The serve is the one stroke where a player has complete control of the shuttle. Therefor, it is reasonable to expect a consistent stroke if practiced long enough (and properly!).
     
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    Yep, was getting really good, until I started messing around with the tumble serve here
    http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php/151121-Tumbling-serve

    which has over the past few weeks really messed up my regular serve... :(
     
  13. visor

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    Yeah, I still feel the pressure especially when it's 17 all and the receiver is a good rusher. But there are little tricks like intentionally serving short, serving slightly across the body, etc.
     
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    drive serve big rushers ;)
     
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    That too, but I'm kinda short at 168cm to do that effectively and legally... :(
     
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    just cheat - everyone else does ;)
     
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    It doesn't matter if it is an upward drive as long as it goes past them quickly. I think a lot of people assume the drive serve has to be flat but in my view a drive serve works just fine when it travels slightly upwards :)

    I wouldn't do that at 17 all though. At 17 all the perfect low serve comes out to play!
     
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    Speaking of drive serves, where should you aim? Directly at them, slightly to the backhand, or? Obviously not at the racket...
     
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    Practice is certainly needed. This winter, I practiced serving quite a lot and I find it helps with consistency. Additionally, you may find that you need mental stability. This involves resetting yourself after every rally and concentrating on the serve. This is what I'm trying to work on. Otherwise, the shuttle ends up in the middle of the net :crying:
     
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    For me: down the centre line. Very effective on both sides.
     

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